Doing some homework on these guys

[KimJongIl]

Originally Posted by GeekPoop

Yeah I agree about this. I post like every day in AM's PCT section and keep telling people no reason to dose clomi higher than 50mgs. the 300 / 100mg week load is pure bullshit. People are starting to realize it now as well.

as far as PHF... that site sucks. "serm brahs" if you touch a 10mg pill of mdrol you need a serm otherwise you will die. if you ingest any ds without a serm you will die. if you type mdrol, you better have a serm in your computer desk. the site is a waste of time to visit let alone try to learn something from.

im getting that problem too on both sites, i try to give people good OTC advice that works very well for me, and then a load of people with under 30 posts say you "must" use a serm for a hdrol cycle.

im picking people apart asking them how their experience was with OTC products and then i get information they they were taking bulk trib or something silly like that or they only dosed inhibite for a week and paniced so they got a serm.

another person claimed you need serm for hdrol because his test tested at 44 post cycle, so you MUST you a serm because of suppression. like OTC wont help in that department.

my point is try to limit your serm use for harder cycle, you dont want to over serm, a serm in itself can be abused. am i right guys?

dont mean to get into any debate, i still have alot to learn but i give the same type of OTC options that you do Geek and then i get 100 people jumping on as "Serm Bras"

[GeekPoop]

Ya Ive had this same convo with the owner of SNS actually lol.

if you got a source, which you do, Id just use it. When I post up a pct and reccomend a serm, 90% of the time the OP will pm me for a serm source which gets real annoying real fast.

IMO some phs should only be ran with a serm, tren, sd, phera etc. But I mean 50mgs 4 weeks hdrol and a serm? get real lol.

as far as that guy with 44 test afterwards, ask him if he got tested before his cycle. My guess is he didnt.

You'll also notice 3/4 of the people have never used any of the compounds or products that they give advice on. Ask someone what was 100mgs of clomi like and they'll say uh... well I never used it but I plan to or some shit. Or someone will say oh no dont go higher than 30mgs on epi! why, have you ran it? lol. Questioning them is fun lol, most of the time they dont respond.

[KimJongIl]

found that 44 guy,

and get ALOT of Nolva, lol

Originally Posted by Kookahdoo

OP...if you really want to recover from the cycle, PLEASE use a SERM. Halo is not a mild compound. I can be mild on sides, but suppression is suppression. I ended my H-drol cycle with a serum test level of 44. Normal range for the test was 200-800. I'm normally at 500.

And get ALOT of the Nolva. You can use it for other cycles and in case you get delayed gyno.

I would dose the Nolva 40/20/20/10/10. No need for a test booster or anything else. The nolva has been strong enough for me for the most suppressive cycles. It's great at upregulating HPTa.

As far as other supps, I would get some Organ Shield and run it on cycle. It's good for your liver and Hdrol is hepatotoxic.

Hope this helps.

[celc5]

KJI,
a good place to start would be to ask yourself why you need a serm. 2 reasons in my opinion:
1) restart hpta
2) address gyno

IMO simply "controlling" possible estrogenic symptoms isn't a reason to use a serm. An otc AI can take care of that fairly well most of the time. But an otc AI doesn't quite cut it when there's testicular atrophy or a possible gyno lump forming (just as listed above).

That's pretty black and white the way I wrote it. And we all know decision making isn't always that clear cut in real life. But it's a good concept to think about while doing your pct research.

Geek,
I see your point. Keep in mind that it's not our job to save every idiot on these boards. I've found a handful of good concise reviews on phf on m14add. Those are tough to find, so go back to phf on occasion. But that doesn't mean I'd call phf the next day after banging it doggy

[GeekPoop]

Originally Posted by KimJongIl

found that 44 guy,

and get ALOT of Nolva, lol

Yeah he used to be a CEL rep, now he reps for Purus.

with test levels that low I assume youd experience sexual side effects as well. Oh well w/e lol.

Originally Posted by celc5

KJI,
a good place to start would be to ask yourself why you need a serm. 2 reasons in my opinion:
1) restart hpta
2) address gyno

IMO simply "controlling" possible estrogenic symptoms isn't a reason to use a serm. An otc AI can take care of that fairly well most of the time. But an otc AI doesn't quite cut it when there's testicular atrophy or a possible gyno lump forming (just as listed above).

That's pretty black and white the way I wrote it. And we all know decision making isn't always that clear cut in real life. But it's a good concept to think about while doing your pct research.

Geek,
I see your point. Keep in mind that it's not our job to save every idiot on these boards. I've found a handful of good concise reviews on phf on m14add. Those are tough to find, so go back to phf on occasion. But that doesn't mean I'd call phf the next day after banging it doggy

Yeah I dont give a fuck about 99% of the people online lol. I like the people on SA and thats really about it.

[celc5]

Research Stop shipping took 5 business days. They also sent shipping confirmation the next business day via email. So far, they seem reliable in terms of customer service. We'll see how things as far as recovery when the time comes

[GeekPoop]

Originally Posted by celc5

Research Stop shipping took 5 business days. They also sent shipping confirmation the next business day via email. So far, they seem reliable in terms of customer service. We'll see how things as far as recovery when the time comes

I think for me it was like maybe 3 days? idk but it was incredibly short.

their exem is legit lol

[KimJongIl]

well picked up some clomi from research stop,

how to you guys feed these to your rats? i heard it tastes terrible.

is it easy to measure with the dropper? do you mix bottle?

[GeekPoop]

Originally Posted by KimJongIl

well picked up some clomi from research stop,

how to you guys feed these to your rats? i heard it tastes terrible.

is it easy to measure with the dropper? do you mix bottle?

just use a metered dropper n drop it into some water or something, not to much like a shot size.

you can take it straight but jesus does it taste awful. Just shake it up before measuring it out ;)

[celc5]

The clomid does not taste as bad as the exemestane. It's tolerable in Ruby Red grapefruit juice. Like Geek said, shoot it like a shot and then do another ruby red shot as a chaser. You'll be fine.

The dropper from Research Stop only measures .5ml and 1ml. Also, I think exemestane ate ink off of those measures I'd buy a dropper from a local store with more accurate dosing and it'll most likely be more resiliant too.